June 6, 2007
C. Hitchens: the moral eclipse of the secular left
The following is my effort at transcribing
a portion of a YouTube clip, which is itself
just a portion of a debate, from this site:
From the debate between Christopher Hitchens
and Chris Hedges in at Berkeley Univ.:
Hitchens: The decline, not to say the moral eclipse,
of the secular left has just been illustrated on this
very platform by someone, who makes excuses for
suicide murder and tries to trace them to a second-
rate sociology. But, to the hidden agenda to the
question, 'Is George Bush on a Christian Crusade
in Iraq and Afganistan'? Obviously not. Obviously
not. Anyone who's studied what's happening in
either of those two countries now, knows the whole
of American policy...and by the way a lot of your
own future, ladies and gentlemen, is staked on the
hope that federal, secular democrats can emerge
from this terrible combat, and that we can protect
them and offer them help while they do so. I've
met them. I love them. They're our friends.
Every member of the 82nd Airborne Division could be
a snake handling congregationalist, for all I know but,
these men and women, though you sneer and jeer at
them, and snigger when you hear applause and excuses
for suicide bombers and you have to live with the shame
of having done that, these people are guarding you while
you sleep, whether you know it or not. And they're
also creating space for secularism to emerge and you'd
better hope that they are successful.
Hedges: I feel that I should be reading Kipling's "White
Hitchens: What you mean is you wish you had read it.
(This) is the exact equivelent of the evil, nonsense talk
by Hedges and friends of his who say the suicide bombers
in Palestine are driven to it by despair. Have you read
the manifestos of these sucide bombers? Have you
seen the videos they make? Have you seen the manifestos
they put out? The propaganda that they generate?
These are not people in despair, these are people in
religious exaltation who are promised everything, who
are in a state of hope, who are in a state of adoration
for their evil mullahs and for their filthy religion.
It's this that makes them think they have the right
to kill others, while taking their own lives. If despair
among Palestinians was enough to creat psychopathic,
criminal behavior, there's been enough despair for a
long time, and enough misery to go around.
It is...it is to excuse the vicious, filthy forces of
Islamic Jihad to offer any other explanation for this,
their own evil preaching, their own vile religion, their
own racism, their own apocalyptic ideology that
makes them think they have the right to kill everyone
in this room and go to paradise as a reward. I won't
listen, nor should you, anyone who euphimizes or excuses
this evil, wicked thing.
Posted by Muggins